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01-15-2009, 01:19 AM
Hi

Is the C6Fix also needed for C6.3 on Win7 ?

Secondly ... I get the following message trying to install C7 on W7 . (see
Image)

Any ideas ??

Kind regards

Ben

NewsArchive
01-15-2009, 01:20 AM
Hi Ben,

> Is the C6Fix also needed for C6.3 on Win7 ?

Probably.

> Secondly ... I get the following message trying to install C7 on W7 . (see
> Image)
>
> Any ideas ??

I did a quick look in my SB installs and it looks like SB does not detect
Win 7. Perhaps there are OS conditions in the C7 install that make it for
example require XP, Vista or WS2008. That would exclude Win7.

Best regards,

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NewsArchive
01-15-2009, 01:47 AM
Hi Ben,

> Is the C6Fix also needed for C6.3 on Win7 ?
>
> Secondly ... I get the following message trying to install C7 on W7 .
> (see Image)
>
> Any ideas ??

Yes, the C6Fix is needed for C6.3 on Win7.

The next SB6 and SB7 (beta) releases will introduce built-in support for
Windows 7 and Server 7. It's already fully integrated in the latest
internal SB7 (beta) and will be ported back to SB6 now.

I'll also make a recompiled C6Fix available.

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Friedrich Linder
Lindersoft
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+1.954.252.3910

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NewsArchive
01-15-2009, 03:48 AM
Thanks You are a star !

Kind regards

Ben

NewsArchive
01-16-2009, 01:39 AM
> Hi Ben,
>
> On 15 Jan 2009 00:38:14 -0500, Riebens wrote:
>
>> Is the C6Fix also needed for C6.3 on Win7 ?
>
> Probably.
>
>> Secondly ... I get the following message trying to install C7 on W7 . (see
>> Image)
>>
>> Any ideas ??
>
> I did a quick look in my SB installs and it looks like SB does not detect
> Win 7.

Arnor, Ben and others,

There IS an alternative until Friedrich gives us the updated build.

I recently shared this with Charles Edmonds of LANSRAD -

> Charles,

OK, the good news is this! - highlight install file - right click menu -
Troubleshoot compatibility - run through a series of steps (similar to what
Vista does now - I have not run through the Vista procedure in QUITE some
time, so I had forgotten about it)

AND, Viola! - your EZChangeLog PRO install works - my Product Scope 7
install works - YES!

View the attached screen shot.

David

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01-16-2009, 01:41 AM
Hi David,

This will not make the installations Windows7 nor Server7 "aware" ;-) This
would only start a legacy (not Vista-aware) or asInvoker with administrator
execution level privileges.

The Clarion 7 installer makes use of the "OS Requirements" (System Software
Requirements) feature. Because the version number for Windows 7 and Server
7 was unknown, it is "excluded" and so does not start.

If you build OS independent installations, then you are not affected
(directly). But some features (e.g. Restore Point, Scheduled Tasks, Set
Access Control) definitely do not work under Server 7 (Server 2008 R2) with
the current SB6 and SB7 builds because this Server thing is brand new.

So you'll need the upcoming maintenance releases for SB6 and SB7 to support
Windows 7 and Server 7.

--
Friedrich Linder
Lindersoft
www.lindersoft.com
+1.954.252.3910

SetupBuilder "point. click. ship"
Create Windows Vista ready installations in minutes

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NewsArchive
01-16-2009, 01:42 AM
David,

Please read, Friedrich. READ!!!! I apologize. Of course, you are so
completely right <g>. I only saw the "Run as administrator" item. Program
compatibility is a mode in Windows that lets you run programs written for
earlier versions of Windows. So you can definitely use this to "set" the
version back to Vista.

Sorry for my confusion.

Friedrich

--
Friedrich Linder
Lindersoft
www.lindersoft.com
+1.954.252.3910

SetupBuilder "point. click. ship"
Create Windows Vista ready installations in minutes

-- Official Comodo Code Signing and SSL Certificate Partner

NewsArchive
01-16-2009, 01:43 AM
> David,
>
> Please read, Friedrich. READ!!!! I apologize. Of course, you are so
> completely right <g>.

Friedrich,

Well (bashfully speaking), I kinda thought - it DID make the installer
work, wonder what I did wrong! :-D

> I only saw the "Run as administrator" item. Program
> compatibility is a mode in Windows that lets you run programs written for
> earlier versions of Windows. So you can definitely use this to "set" the
> version back to Vista.

Yes, but most of us see this, of course, as a temporary fix until the next
latest SetupBuilder build addresses this - WE very much appreciate that
your company is ALWAYS on top of the latest developments! including an OS
that barely made a public beta stage!

David

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NewsArchive
01-16-2009, 01:44 AM
> Hi David,
>
> This will not make the installations Windows7 nor Server7 "aware" ;-) This
> would only start a legacy (not Vista-aware) or asInvoker with administrator
> execution level privileges.
>
> The Clarion 7 installer makes use of the "OS Requirements" (System Software
> Requirements) feature. Because the version number for Windows 7 and Server
> 7 was unknown, it is "excluded" and so does not start.
>
> If you build OS independent installations, then you are not affected
> (directly).

Friedrich,

Yes, one of the most prominent SB installs I have tested to date (besides
SetupBuilder Developer 6.9) - THAT did work under Windows 7 (without any
TroubleShooter compabitility help) is:

Product Description - Data Management Center, MFG - CGF
Internet Link - http://www.dmc-fr.com/home_en.php

However DMC OS requirments are:

http://www.download.com/Data-Management-Center/3000-2065_4-10805087.html?tag=mncol

Windows 3.x/95/Me/2000/XP/2003 Server/Vista/2008 Server -

So an OS independent installation.

David

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NewsArchive
01-16-2009, 01:45 AM
David.... BRILLIANT...

It works....

Kind Regards

Ben

NewsArchive
01-16-2009, 01:46 AM
> David.... BRILLIANT...

Ben,

I have this habit of right clicking on Files and examining options, viewing
file properties, etc :-D

- it would make sense at this stage (early public beta),

they would have the "Troubleshoot compatibility" option - because MS wants
everyone to have a "better Vista" experience early on - AND to use their
favorite programs, etc

David

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Clarion Third Party Profile Exchange Online
http://encouragersoftware.com/profile/clarlinks.html
Profile Exchanges - www.encouragersoftware.com/profile/
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NewsArchive
01-16-2009, 01:47 AM
> Perhaps there are OS conditions in the C7 install that make it for
> example require XP, Vista or WS2008.

It was probably set to include specific OSs (unwise) instead of excluding
the off-limits ones (better choice to future proof the installer).
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