Enhanced Learning SetupBuilder Part I (April 27, 2010)

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All,

The new SetupBuilder 7 Project Examples Package comes with an enhanced
version of the excellent "Learning SetupBuilder Part I". The official
"Everything you ever wanted to know about SetupBuilder but were afraid to
ask" introductory material, written by Jane Fleming. This "SetupBuilder
Bible" is a compendium of tips, tricks, warnings, and resources for
SetupBuilder users of every ability level.

You can download the Project Examples Package at:
http://www.lindersoft.com/downloads_licensed.htm

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Friedrich Linder
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Hi friedrich,

> The new SetupBuilder 7 Project Examples Package comes with an enhanced
> version of the excellent "Learning SetupBuilder Part I". The official
> "Everything you ever wanted to know about SetupBuilder but were afraid to
> ask" introductory material, written by Jane Fleming. This "SetupBuilder
> Bible" is a compendium of tips, tricks, warnings, and resources for
> SetupBuilder users of every ability level.
>
> You can download the Project Examples Package at:
> http://www.lindersoft.com/downloads_licensed.htm

he-he. <g>

Thank you
gennadi

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>> You can download the Project Examples Package at:
>> http://www.lindersoft.com/downloads_licensed.htm
>
> he-he. <g>

;-)

Friedrich

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Gennadi,

You, too, can become a part of history <g>

jf

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Hi Jane,

> You, too, can become a part of history <g>

I am already <g>

btw what part do you mean?

gennadi

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The "Gennadi wants to do a license agreement from variable" example
Friedrich created is part of the new examples package.

Jane

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Hi Jane,
> The "Gennadi wants to do a license agreement from variable" example
> Friedrich created is part of the new examples package.

Yes, you are right! I saw "my" example in a new examples installation.

gennadi

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> All,
>
> The new SetupBuilder 7 Project Examples Package comes with an enhanced
> version of the excellent "Learning SetupBuilder Part I". The official
> "Everything you ever wanted to know about SetupBuilder but were afraid to
> ask" introductory material, written by Jane Fleming. This "SetupBuilder
> Bible" is a compendium of tips, tricks, warnings, and resources for
> SetupBuilder users of every ability level.
>
> You can download the Project Examples Package at:
> http://www.lindersoft.com/downloads_licensed.htm

Many thanks to "Team Jane" and Team Lindersoft for the examples package!

I'm sure many have spend large amounts of dollar euro yen pound rand for
training materials, seminars, associated business expenses that do not even
equal what is contained in the examples package!

An excellent offering!

I would suggest adding to the "Getting Started" help topic - "The Examples
directory" area - a mention of the CHM - Learning SetupBuilder Part I being
installed in the Examples directory.

Yes, it is mentioned in the Documentation Roadmap and Custom Dialog Script
Processing help topics - but a bit more "in your face" in a logical
starting point for a very important resource.

David

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Actually, David, a more logical location for my CHM would be in the
SetupBuilder folder.

The CHM has many links to the main documentation, and those links fail
silently unless there's a copy of the main sbuilder.chm file in the same
folder (or in the search path).

What I'd suggest is

1. The SB_Examples installer asks for an installation path as it does now.
2. It installs the examples to that path
3. Regardless of that path, it installs the CHM to the folder where SB7 is
installed.
4. SB looks for that CHM at startup. If found, it adds a link to it on
the Help menu
5. If not found, it adds a "Download the examples" link to the Help menu.

This is just based on a longtime teacher's observation over the years that
Men Don't Read! <g>

OTOH, Friedrich enjoys doing customer support. <bg>

So having the examples and tutorial information be challenging to find
provides him many additional hours of entertainment ;-)

Jane

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Jane,

> Men Don't Read! <g>

Don't read what? <g>

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Women, obviously!

They ask, "why don't women tell us what they want?"

Then we tell them, and they insist on doing the opposite <g>

Jane

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> Then we tell them, and they insist on doing the opposite <g>

But does this not keep changing depending on the weather? <vbg> Very
difficult for men you know, very difficult indeed. <g>

J André Labuschagné

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Jane,

> Then we tell them, and they insist on doing the opposite <g>

Easy fix, tell us what you DON'T want!<g>

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Lee,

>Easy fix, tell us what you DON'T want!<g>

Perhaps not so easy, I can't think of an example for that. <G>

- Kelly

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Jane,

>Men Don't Read! <g>

But we do look at the pictures! <G>

- Kelly

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> Actually, David, a more logical location for my CHM would be in the
> SetupBuilder folder.
>
> The CHM has many links to the main documentation, and those links fail
> silently unless there's a copy of the main sbuilder.chm file in the same
> folder (or in the search path).
>
> What I'd suggest is

Jane,

Of course, I agree with all you have said - NOW if FL is listening - FL -
sounds like a vacation spot! :-D

Another observation is this - While the Documentation Roadmap help topic
does a good job of detailing the Example Projects Package and your CHM -

I think that material needs to be copied to the Getting Started topic as
well because I think many miss the point - the Example Projects Package IS
an additional download - and I have seen enough ask over time - where are
the examples?

Something else on my wish list - I would LOVE for this to appear - once
Learning SetupBuilder Part I is installed - it will appear as a menu
selection under Help Topics in the SB IDE when no projects are loaded!

David

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> Of course, I agree with all you have said - NOW if FL is listening - FL -
> sounds like a vacation spot! :-D

Hehehehe... :)

I think the "Learning SetupBuilder" document is essential and I'll change
the deployment method soon. Examples will still be installed per-user, but
the Learning SetupBuilder will be per-machine. And it will appear as a menu
item under Help Topics in the SB IDE.

Friedrich

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>> Of course, I agree with all you have said - NOW if FL is listening - FL -
>> sounds like a vacation spot! :-D
>
> Hehehehe... :)

Friedrich,

>> FL - sounds like a vacation spot! :-D

FL as in Florida! :-D

As we all know, the German FL is an industrial non-stop working machine!

>
> I think the "Learning SetupBuilder" document is essential and I'll change
> the deployment method soon. Examples will still be installed per-user, but
> the Learning SetupBuilder will be per-machine. And it will appear as a menu
> item under Help Topics in the SB IDE.

Thank you! Thank you! Thank you!

We all appreciate the extensive standard docs that come with SetupBuilder,
but with Jane's extensive and impressive writing skills coupled with
illustrative screens shots that help one to zero in on a technical concept
in short order -

and with your new deployment methods - it will finally bring this resource
to a more prominent placement in the HelpDesk area, and for most of us -
the "light will go on quicker" as more and more discover and use this
resource.

David

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> This is just based on a longtime teacher's observation over the years
> that Men Don't Read! <g>

Hey, some of us read! The problem is that those of us who do read
typically have to support people who don't read but assume that "It Must
Be Easy". Those people are unfortunately capable of switching from one
project/tool to the next far faster than those of us who read can keep
up, given the amount of reading that should be done to actually make it
"Easy"(or at least actually usable or stable).

Ben
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