Crystal Reports Xi and SB5

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Robert,

>
> 1. What's the ETA on this? (week or month?)
>

I believe I'll have an ETA available next week.

>
> 2. Will it include support for the Crystal Reports Sybase drivers as well?
>

A few words to the new "SB5 Merge Module" compiler technology (Developer
Edition only). We can import (configurable) Windows Installer merge modules
(.msm) and compile native .msi runtime files for SetupBuilder 5 now.

So if the Crystal merge modules support Sybase drivers then you can also add
this to your setup.exe. In this case, support for the Sybase drivers is
included in the reportengine merge module.

>
> 3. How will it work in first getting the latest service pack from
> Crystal - meaning, do you install from CD, then get a service pack, and
> then run the Setup Builder?
>

We are using the original Crystal merge modules (SP1 dated 3/8/2006). You
can download the latest .msm, add the SB5 runtime include script and compile
your SetupBuilder 5 project.

BTW, if SP2 comes out, download the new merge modules and recompile your
project.

> 4. Is the SB build script smart enough to get rid of what you don't
> want/use - ie: the Design Component.

Yes. SB5 will support configurable merge modules. So, if you don't need,
say, BTRIEVE driver support, just disable this. And if you don't need
support for the Designer Control (another 15 MB of overhead), don't include
the designtime merge module.

> 5. Any idea what the footprint size will be when it is done, for just
> regular CR XI Viewer support, with export, with Sybase, no design
> components.

It depends on the merge module. The reportengine and runtime merge modules
are 58 MB, so if you need both merge modules, the overhead will be ~58 MB
(1,000+ files).

Friedrich

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Hi Robert,

>2. Will it include support for the Crystal Reports Sybase drivers as well?

CR uses ODBC for SQL Anywhere, so no extra stuff needed there except
ODBC which I'm sure is included in the msm/msi. Installing the sybase
odbc is very simple, all you need is to update the ODBC registry or
have SB install the driver for you (it's been in SB5 for quite a
while)

Best regards,

Arnór Baldvinsson
Icetips Software
San Antonio, Texas, USA
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Robert,

We are making good progress in creating the CR Xi redistributable. Our
compiler seems to work fine with the latest Crystal 11.5 merge modules.
BTW, the CR developers have again increased the redistributable overhead by
7 MB.

Do you have any (simple) app available that makes use of the Crystal Reports
Xi stuff so I can test it here?

Thanks,
Friedrich

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Friedrich Linder
CEO, Lindersoft
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+1.954.252.3910

"point. click. ship" - that's SetupBuilder 5

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Arnor,

I thought so, but there is a Sybase component (which needs to be installed
right?)

crdb_p2ssyb10.dll

-Robert

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Hi,

Yes, I do -- it will be placed on our website this afternoon - (just wait
for the new website, then you'll know V11 of roomMaster is available) --
once installed, you go to the Reports Menu, Custom Reports, and then
you add your Crystal Report there.

I'd like to make sure I have some control over the install as well.

1. Be able to place CRpe32.dll in the application directory during the
install (as I believe it has to be?)
2. Make sure the CR objects go to \program files\common\business
objects\bin\3.0 - Please make sure you don't put things in
WINDOWS\SYSTEM32 unless it needs to be.
3. Ability to take out what I don't need (not sure if this can be done)
like Access, Maps, Create Reports API, etc. that don't get used. (maybe
this can't be done)
4. Have uninstall support.

We'll most likely make this a separate download from our website for the
people who need Crystal support so the regular users don't have to worry
about this overhead.

-Robert

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Hi,

Oops, I mean:

C:\Program Files\Common Files\Business Objects\3.0\bin

-Robert

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Hi Robert,

> Yes, I do -- it will be placed on our website this afternoon - (just wait
> for the new website, then you'll know V11 of roomMaster is available) --
> once installed, you go to the Reports Menu, Custom Reports, and then you
> add your Crystal Report there.

Great, thank you.

> I'd like to make sure I have some control over the install as well.
>
> 1. Be able to place CRpe32.dll in the application directory during the
> install (as I believe it has to be?)

In CR Xi SP1, crpe32.dll goes into the \Business Objects\Common\3.5\Bin
folder.

> 2. Make sure the CR objects go to \program files\common\business
> objects\bin\3.0 - Please make sure you don't put things in
> WINDOWS\SYSTEM32 unless it needs to be.

You cannot "modify" folders in merge modules. CR objects for version Xi SP1
go to \Program Files\Common\Business Objects\Common\3.5\Bin (not 3.0).

> 3. Ability to take out what I don't need (not sure if this can be done)
> like Access, Maps, Create Reports API, etc. that don't get used. (maybe
> this can't be done)

This is part of the configurable merge modules support. If you don't need
Access support, etc, you can disable this.

>
> 4. Have uninstall support.
>

The Windows Installer service is responsible for .msi uninstall support.
The Crystal Xi runtime (compiled with SetupBuilder 5.4) will be a native
..msi runtime installer so it can be uninstalled via the Add/Remove Programs
panel.

> We'll most likely make this a separate download from our website for the
> people who need Crystal support so the regular users don't have to worry
> about this overhead.

Good idea. A standard CR Xi SP1 runtime msi is 60 MB.

Friedrich

--
Friedrich Linder
CEO, Lindersoft
www.lindersoft.com
+1.954.252.3910

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Hi,

I sent you the link to the application.

60MEG! UGH!

-Robert

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Hi Robert,

>I thought so, but there is a Sybase component (which needs to be installed
>right?)
>
>crdb_p2ssyb10.dll

I think that is for Sybase Enterprise, which is entirely different
from iAnywhere. I could be mistaken on that, but generally when there
are Sybase dlls somewhere, they are for ASE, not ASA.

Best regards,

Arnór Baldvinsson
Icetips Software
San Antonio, Texas, USA
www.icetips.com


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