C7 - Accessory Directory?

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C7 is impressive! A few bugs to work out, but with wide distribution now, I
expect they will be taken care of very quickly!

I've started rebuilding my installs to include Clarion 7, and want to make
sure I've got this right. Looking at the Redirection file and file
structure for Clarion 7, it looks like we should install in the C:\Program
Files\SoftVelocity\Clarion7\accessory directory. Using this directory
instead of creating a 3rdParty folder would not require an edit to the
developers redirection file.

Is this what other developers are doing?
If so, how do I amend the SetupBuilder Clarion7 default selection directory
to include "Accessory"?

Thanks for any help.

Bill Roe
www.valutilities.com

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NO Bill

You have to insdtall to %ROOT%/etc etc .... and certainely NOT a fixed
c:\wahtever

yes some bright boys came out with changing 3rdparty to accessory and
another bright boy came up with "win" (and I am sure"net" for others)

Those ruined all the 3rdParty selelrs existing installers but who cares
after all .....

Bill, check the sb NG as Friedrich was again kind enough to come up with a
ready made demo on how to install c6 or c7 and he has the solution to your
pb .....

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> Those ruined all the 3rdParty selelrs existing installers but who cares
> after all .....

It was a widely, and lengthily, discussed agreement between a large
number of 3rd party developers and was adopted by SV so 3rd party was
not left with the job of creating the folder hierarchy. It was a
change we requested before the product was shipped and has been in
place since well before the AppGen.

\win is in place to discern between win32 and dotNet components.

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Lee,

This Russ had told me already

But when you all decided to have "accessory" instead of "3rdparty" did you
not think about your installers and consequences for dual installs ?

Wether SV creates or not accessory or 3rdParty is the same

Whether it exists or not is the same because Setup Builder vreates the dirs
if they do not exist

And how come all this "consortium" of thinking heads (just a bit sarcastic
and not pejorative of course with all due respect) did not oppose to having
another subdir added "win" which again creates havvock in installers ?

If SV wants to place "net" then good enough as template for NET will NEVER
EVER be sold for clarion 6 so no problems as you all would need to CREATE
new installers

Now we are sitting with _sorry but I call this a stupid situation created
without thinking twice_ where ALL installers have to be redone entirely

Sorry if my "big mouth" again disturbs some but if I am wrong please do show
me why and how

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Hi Jean-Pierre,

> But when you all decided to have "accessory" instead of "3rdparty" did you
> not think about your installers and consequences for dual installs ?

No need for dual installs It is actually very simple to take care of
Download the demo that Friedrich posted recently and use that. I converted
3 C6 installs yesterday to be both C6 and C7. I had started out with dual
installs since it wasn't that much of a deal for me, but when I checked out
the "Clarion Template Deployment.sb6" demo from Friedrich that he posted on
the sb newsgroup, I realized how simple this could be

See:

Newsgroups: softvelocity.clarion.addons.setupbuilder
Subject: SetupBuilder 6.9 Build 2454 #PRE-RELEASE#
Date: 23 Dec 2008 10:50:31 -0500

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Arnor,

NOW that Friedrich took the trouble to get us ALL out of this mess it is
easy
Thank you

Does not answer my question : who invented that idea-concept and why was it
adopted without thinking of ALL installers having to be redone ?

But forget it ... I am sure communication this time will work as well as
when we ask SV .....

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Thank you - Merci

Cordialement - Best Regards
Jean-Pierre GUTSATZ

DMC - Data Management Center - A tool to let you Migrate Import Export
Transfer all your Data very easily
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2008"

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JP,

I know you are wanting to target someone, so target MS. Won't do you any
good, but it should make you feel better <g>.

> Does not answer my question : who invented that idea-concept and why was
> it adopted without thinking of ALL installers having to be redone ?


--
Russell B. Eggen
www.radfusion.com
Skype Clarion chat: http://tinyurl.com/2273lm

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Russel,

I do not give a xxx about "targeting" someone

When I find something stupid i say it and if you do not like it then simply
say so instead of always trying to find something wrong with my post

If you find the same thing intelligent then please give us your reasons and
you may get me to change my mind if your reasons are good ones

Asking me to ask MS why SV decided to spoil all the installers by not only
accepting "your" idea of changing 3rdParty to accessory but also to add
"win" just to be able to also have "net" is again stupid because this only
depends on you guys and SV ..... and it proves once again no one thought
twice about all the community but only of their small world.

If you do not want to answer then simply say so instead of always trying to
send the ball back on me : I am not (and you should know it since the time
we play this ridiculous game) a kid you can toss around , so grow up change
attitude or forget my posts and do not bother answering them

Maybe the idea I have of a community is not what it is and maybe I do give
too much time and efforts and help when I should not - because the type of
community you are taking us into is not a good one

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Thank you - Merci

Cordialement - Best Regards
Jean-Pierre GUTSATZ

DMC - Data Management Center - A tool to let you Migrate Import Export
Transfer all your Data very easily
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2008"

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JP,

First of all: chill.

Two: You need to listen to what people are telling you, they are giving you
very good information. That information is filling in some knowledge you
don't have (always a good thing) and giving you data so you can change
something for the better.

Three: No one that I can tell replying to your posts put you down or
belittle you. Some of your posts however come across in an accusatory tone,
so you may want to double check things before hitting the "Send" button.
These posts from what I see almost always miss the correct target. Your
calling 3rd party vendors "stupid" because you don't agree with a decided
standard is a good example of what I'm talking about.

Four: You need to be willing to change some things. You may not like or
want to, but you need to ask yourself if an improvement results or something
you need to learn so you don't put yourself in a position to make changes
later. Its understood you want to produce the best code you can (we all
do).

Five: No one has the monopoly on good ideas. Be willing to see other's
viewpoints.

--
Russell B. Eggen
www.radfusion.com
Skype Clarion chat: http://tinyurl.com/2273lm

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I am willing to see others good ideas .....please please please
Russel...what is the reason who got "some" to come up with what I call
'stupid' (please note I did not call the people stupid but only the idea so
reading before using send is a two way road it seems) idea of changing all

I'm only asking to learn ..... and am only receiving general no-answers

So I am sure it is way better for all not to carry on as you do not seem to
understand my poor english

let it be Russ .....

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Thank you - Merci

Cordialement - Best Regards
Jean-Pierre GUTSATZ

DMC - Data Management Center - A tool to let you Migrate Import Export
Transfer all your Data very easily
www.dmc-fr.com
Certified by Microsoft : "Works with Vista" & "Works with Windows Server
2008"