Launch non-elevated

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Hi Friedrich,

Is this option in the "Run Program" action safe to run the updated program
after a web update under Vista/Win7 UAC? I.e. what I do in my program is
that if an update exists I launch the web update and terminate my program.
Question is if this option is safe to run my program at the end of the web
update?

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Hi Arnór,

> Is this option in the "Run Program" action safe to run the updated program
> after a web update under Vista/Win7 UAC? I.e. what I do in my program is
> that if an update exists I launch the web update and terminate my program.
> Question is if this option is safe to run my program at the end of the web
> update?

Yes, this option is safe! The "Launch non-elevated under UAC" Run option
lets you launch the updated application in the context of the "original"
Standard User. You can also use the option to start your app at the end of
an installation.

It is very common to start an application at the end of the installation.
If you do not use the "non-elevated" Run option, the application is often
started under the wrong user context because the elevated installer
privileges are carried over to that application. "Launch non-elevated under
UAC" solves this problem.

Friedrich

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> It is very common to start an application at the end of the installation.
> If you do not use the "non-elevated" Run option, the application is often
> started under the wrong user context because the elevated installer
> privileges are carried over to that application. "Launch non-elevated under
> UAC" solves this problem.

Friedrich,

Does that still function as expected on a non-UAC OS (or if the user has
UAC disabled)?

Or do we need to test for the OS and/or UAC condition?


Charles



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Hi Charles,

> Does that still function as expected on a non-UAC OS (or if the user has
> UAC disabled)?
>
> Or do we need to test for the OS and/or UAC condition?

The "non-elevated" option does not have any effect on non-UAC aware systems
or on systems that have UAC disabled.

We do the following in the SB install image to launch the IDE at the end of
the installation (see attached screenshot).

Friedrich

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> The "non-elevated" option does not have any effect on non-UAC aware systems
> or on systems that have UAC disabled.
>
> We do the following in the SB install image to launch the IDE at the end of
> the installation (see attached screenshot).

Thanks for the clarification and example!

:-)

Charles



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>
> Thanks for the clarification and example!
>

:-)

Friedrich

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Hi Friedrich,

>> Or do we need to test for the OS and/or UAC condition?
>
> The "non-elevated" option does not have any effect on non-UAC aware systems
> or on systems that have UAC disabled.
>
> We do the following in the SB install image to launch the IDE at the end of
> the installation (see attached screenshot).

The code you show tests for Win_Vista. Does that mean that this does not
work if I install on Vista, W2k8 or Win7 with UAC disabled? Is there a
reason why SB doesn't simply handle this automatically so duplicated code is
not needed???

Best regards,

--
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Port Angeles, Washington
www.icetips.com - www.buildautomator.com - www.altawebworks.com

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Hi Arnór,

>> We do the following in the SB install image to launch the IDE at the end
>> of the installation (see attached screenshot).
>
> The code you show tests for Win_Vista. Does that mean that this does not
> work if I install on Vista, W2k8 or Win7 with UAC disabled? Is there a
> reason why SB doesn't simply handle this automatically so duplicated code
> is not needed???

It tests for "less than" Vista ;-) So it is only executed in "non-elevated
mode" if the operating system is UAC-aware.

But in fact, the conditional statement is not required because SetupBuilder
handles this automatically. The function will work on machines with UAC
disabled and a fallback mechanism kicks in if the operating system does not
support UAC.

Friedrich

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Hi Friedrich,

> But in fact, the conditional statement is not required because SetupBuilder
> handles this automatically. The function will work on machines with UAC
> disabled and a fallback mechanism kicks in if the operating system does not
> support UAC.

Ok, so, let me get this straight<g>

I can just use:

Run Program %SB_InstallDir%\MyProgram.exe (Always Install) [Non-Elevated]

and not worry about if this is on Win98 or Win7?<g>

Best regards,

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Port Angeles, Washington
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Hi Arnór,

> Ok, so, let me get this straight<g>
>
> I can just use:
>
> Run Program %SB_InstallDir%\MyProgram.exe (Always Install) [Non-Elevated]
>
> and not worry about if this is on Win98 or Win7?<g>

Yes ;-) And it even works on Win95 <g> (I just tested it).

Friedrich