Hi Friedrich,

For the past week, 10 days or so, I have been experiencing very strange
lockups in both SB7.7 _and_ several other in-house Clarion programs that I
have. I want to stress that this is NOT a SetupBuilder problem, but a
problem with Clarion compiled programs on Windows 7.

This happens if you run the program and then just press the alt key. Not
Alt+letter, just press and release the Alt key. What happens is that the
program becomes completely unresponsive. Using Spy++ it indicates that the
program is running, but the only thing it is doing is trying to get an icon.
This happens in Windows 7 Pro and Ultimate with all the latest updates on
both 32 and 64bit OS and on both workstations and virtual machines.

There is no increase in CPU cycles used by the process and no noticable
increase in memory (looking at the information for the process on the
Processes tab in the Task Manager.

_some_ of my programs also show this problem. Build Automator does not as
far as I can tell, but one client project does while another one does not.
One of the programs I use for in-house stuff hasn't been compiled for 11
months and just started showing this behaviour last week.

I cannot isolate this to any specific updates or any specific programs,
services, whatever that may be running on those machines. I haven't updated
to SB8 as I wanted to see if I could find anything with 7.7 where I can
duplicate this everywhere. So far I have duplicated this on two boxes (Win7
Ultimate, 64bit on i5-2500K and i7-3770K 16/32GB ram) and 4 virtual machines
(all 32bit) All Windows 7 Pro or Windows 7 Ultimate.

One of my programs I run from a Windows XP Pro machine (i3, 4GB ram) When I
run it on the XP machine there is no problem. If I run that same EXE over
the network from any of the Windows 7 machines it locks up.

I have not been able to see any differences in my programs that work and
those that lock up.

I'm pretty sure this has something to do with some recent windows update,
but I can't pinpoint which one. For the past 10 days I had run into this
about 4 times before I realized there was a pattern there so I'm pretty sure
I would have run into this pretty quickly if this was some problem with the
Clarion programs.

So far I have only seen this in Clarion programs but I did get the same kind
of lockup in Windows Live Mail once, but haven't been able to reproduce it.

Do you have any insights? I'm going to upgrade to SB8 and all the latest on
one VM to see if it changes anything. If it does I'll let you know

Best regards,

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Arnór Baldvinsson - Icetips Alta LLC
Port Angeles, Washington
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