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    Default Install that knows about C11.1

    Friedrich,

    Any idea when a version will be available that recognizes 11.1?

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    Default Re: Install that knows about C11.1

    Hi Lee,

    >
    > Any idea when a version will be available that recognizes 11.1?
    >

    it's already available ;-)

    The new build #6976 can detect C11.0 and C11.1 (and adds preliminary
    built-in support for Windows Server 2022).

    I have backported these features from the upcoming SetupBuilder 2022 to
    SetupBuilder 2019.

    Friedrich

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    Default Re: Install that knows about C11.1

    Friedrich,

    > it's already available ;-)


    Sneaky! THANK YOU!

    Lee White
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    I've tweaked my installer, and when the detection screen appears, it
    shows 11.1, but no longer shows 11. Are the two mutually exclusive?

    Mike Hanson

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    Default Re: Install that knows about C11.1

    Hi Mike,

    > I've tweaked my installer, and when the detection screen appears, it
    > shows 11.1, but no longer shows 11. Are the two mutually exclusive?

    Because C11.0 and C11.1 share the *SAME* Product GUID, from the installation
    point-of-view they can't coexist on the same machine. Similar to Visual
    Studio 2019 - you can only have one VS 2019 version installed. But C11.1
    *replaces* C11.0.

    The last Clarion 11.x install always overwrites the previous installation
    details. If you go to Windows "App and Features" you'll only see one
    Uninstall entry for Clarion 11. With two different Product GUIDs (means:
    two different versions CAN co-exist) you would see two Uninstall entries
    (for C11.0 and C11.1).

    IIRC, we had a similar scenario with C7.1 and C7.2.

    Friedrich

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    Default Re: Install that knows about C11.1

    Friedrich, Mike,

    > Because C11.0 and C11.1 share the *SAME* Product GUID, from the installation
    > point-of-view they can't coexist on the same machine. Similar to Visual
    > Studio 2019 - you can only have one VS 2019 version installed. But C11.1
    > *replaces* C11.0.

    Maybe it's just me but that sounds like an oversight on SV's part. The
    RTL's changed, new GUID's should have been used. I know my 3rd party
    installs got new GUID's for C11.1.... it's just easier that way!<g>

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    Default Re: Install that knows about C11.1

    Quite!

    Mike

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    Default Re: Install that knows about C11.1

    > Maybe it's just me but that sounds like an oversight on SV's part. The
    > RTL's changed, new GUID's should have been used. I know my 3rd party
    > installs got new GUID's for C11.1.... it's just easier that way!<g>

    The problem is that most?! Clarion 11.0 users already installed the C11.1
    "update".

    What happened is the following (see attached screenshot). Let us assume, we
    already had C11.0 installed. The new C11.1 installation *REPLACES* the
    C11.0 installation configuration with C11.1. As a result, you only have
    "Clarion 11.1" registered with Windows - the C11.0 footprint is history now.
    You can't uninstall C11.0 from the "Apps & features" panel any longer and
    Clarion auto-detection can NOT detect C11.0.

    Okay, now let's uninstall C11.1. Magic - Clarion 11.0 is back ;-) You see
    it in the "Apps & features" panel and Clarion autodetection sees C11.0
    again.

    If the 3rd-party community is interested I will try to develop a mechanism
    to detect C11.0 and C11.1 based on uninstall .log information. What do you
    think? A comment from CapeSoft would also be appreciated!

    Friedrich
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    > If the 3rd-party community is interested I will try to develop a mechanism
    > to detect C11.0 and C11.1 based on uninstall .log information. What do
    > you think? A comment from CapeSoft would also be appreciated!

    Additional information: in theory, this lets you auto-detect co-existing
    versions of C11.0 and C11.1 (even if the Product GUID is identical).

    @Lee: if you have several different C11.0 and C11.1 build installed, could
    you please send me your C11.1 "ClarionProperties.xml" (please remove your
    serial numbers first) to friedrich@lindersoft.com.

    Friedrich

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    Friedrich,

    > Additional information: in theory, this lets you auto-detect co-existing
    > versions of C11.0 and C11.1 (even if the Product GUID is identical).

    This is not an issue for me since I have version specific installs and
    don't use the dialog others are referring to. However I do use the
    script option to verify whether Clarion 11.0 or Clarion 11.1 are
    installed to retrieve folder information.

    > @Lee: if you have several different C11.0 and C11.1 build installed, could
    > you please send me your C11.1 "ClarionProperties.xml" (please remove your
    > serial numbers first) to friedrich@lindersoft.com.

    I emailed both the C11.0 and C11.1 ClarionProperties.xml.

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