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    Default What browser for Code Signing Certificates on Windows 11

    Hi Folks,

    What browser are you using to purchase code signing certificates on Windows
    11?

    The website page for the link to buy from the Lindersoft web page
    apparently only supports IE 11 and very old versions of Firefox.

    Thanks!

    Charles

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    Default Re: What browser for Code Signing Certificates on Windows 11

    Hi Charles,

    Going thru that now. You have to use Internet Explorer.

    Don Harvey

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    Default Re: What browser for Code Signing Certificates on Windows 11

    > Going thru that now. You have to use Internet Explorer.

    Thanks Don,

    I'd read that in Jane's updated PDF.

    Unfortunately you can no longer install Internet Explorer into Windows 11.

    For now I will have to order it in a Windows 10 VM and export it from
    there.

    But it is obvious that since all new machines are Windows 11 that Sectigo
    and other sites are going to have to figure out a new way to do this that
    works with Microsoft Edge.

    Charles

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    Default Re: What browser for Code Signing Certificates on Windows 11

    Sorry for being off topic, but this alarmed me!

    >Unfortunately you can no longer install Internet Explorer into Windows 11.

    What happens with programs, that have Capesofts FileExplorer integrated? Which
    is based on IE.

    Will those procedures not run anymore?

    Sorry for asking this dumb question, but I have no Win 11 here to test.

    TIA
    Wolfgang

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    Default Re: What browser for Code Signing Certificates on Windows 11

    > Sorry for being off topic, but this alarmed me!
    >
    >>Unfortunately you can no longer install Internet Explorer into Windows 11.
    >
    > What happens with programs, that have Capesofts FileExplorer integrated? Which
    > is based on IE.
    >
    > Will those procedures not run anymore?
    >
    > Sorry for asking this dumb question, but I have no Win 11 here to test.

    Bruce is probably the right person to answer this question.

    I know that CapeSoft replaced File Explorer with Chrome Explorer as a tool
    built for the future, so you can probably swap out for that as a best way
    forward.

    I suspect that when IE11 reaches end of life that they will stop all
    updates for it and that things depending on it will not work.

    Some threads I followed even mentioned taking old IE11 installers and
    installing them on Windows 11 and the files from the installer don't even
    show up when it is finished.

    Edge does have a funky sort of tool where you can enable IE mode for
    specific URLs, but I played around with that and it did not work to buy the
    code sign certificate. When the URL calls to another IE page, it fails.
    Plus IIRC the URLs you enter as an exception into the list of your edge
    browser only work for 30 days and then they are removed.

    In the case of the code signing, the web page interacts with the browser to
    manipulate the certificate cache on the PC.

    I'm not sure if Edge or other modern browsers can do this, but if so then
    the web pages are going to have to be updated to use code that would call
    into the capabilities of the more modern browsers.

    Or they could just forget all this code signing stuff and go back to the
    wild west hacker days of before...

    :-)

    Charles

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    Default Re: What browser for Code Signing Certificates on Windows 11

    > Or they could just forget all this code signing stuff and go back to the
    > wild west hacker days of before...

    Please - oh please go back to that :-)

    Andre Labuschagne

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    Default Re: What browser for Code Signing Certificates on Windows 11

    > What happens with programs, that have Capesofts FileExplorer integrated? Which
    > is based on IE.

    As I understand it, effectively gone - replaced by Chrome Explorer or
    whatever it is called.

    Andre Labuschagne

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    Default Re: What browser for Code Signing Certificates on Windows 11

    Hi Don,

    On 12/27/2021 12:52 PM, Don Harvey wrote:
    > Going thru that now. You have to use Internet Explorer.

    MS Edge replaced IE a while back it and I would assume it works. I seem
    to recall that was what I used last time I ordered a certificate.

    Best regards,

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    Default Re: What browser for Code Signing Certificates on Windows 11

    > MS Edge replaced IE a while back it and I would assume it works. I seem
    > to recall that was what I used last time I ordered a certificate.

    The Sectigo site does not work with Edge (buttons are disabled and notices
    advise you that IE 11 or very old versions of FireFox are the only option.

    So apparently the code signing industry is going to have to get their stuff
    together in 2022 (since Internet Explorer is end of life in July).

    For now I'll just have to use IE in a Windows 10 VM.

    Charles

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    Default Re: What browser for Code Signing Certificates on Windows 11

    Hi Charles,

    On 12/27/2021 21:45 PM, Charles Edmonds wrote:
    > The Sectigo site does not work with Edge (buttons are disabled and
    > notices
    > advise you that IE 11 or very old versions of FireFox are the only option.
    >
    > So apparently the code signing industry is going to have to get their stuff
    > together in 2022 (since Internet Explorer is end of life in July).

    You are quite right! I dug up my emails from 2019 and it states:

    "*Please use Microsoft Internet Explorer 8+ on Windows and Mozilla
    Firefox on Mac to collect your certificate.*
    Code Signing Certificate cannot currently be obtained using Google
    Chrome, Apple Safari or Microsoft Edge."

    And my W10 does have a bare-bone thing called IE 11.

    It's kind of ironic that we have to use a dead browser that has more
    security holes in it by now than Swiss cheese to get code signing
    certificates to "secure" our distributed software!<g> This code signing
    business is so outdated that it's not even funny.

    Best regards,


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