What browser for Code Signing Certificates on Windows 11

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> Or they could just forget all this code signing stuff and go back to the
> wild west hacker days of before...

Please - oh please go back to that :-)

Andre Labuschagne

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> It's kind of ironic that we have to use a dead browser that has more
> security holes in it by now than Swiss cheese to get code signing
> certificates to "secure" our distributed software!<g> This code signing
> business is so outdated that it's not even funny.

+1

It is a joke - I mean it really is funny.

The scary thing is any security expert worth his or her or whatever salt
will attest that the very concept of code signing is archaic. Like
thinking it is not possible to programmatically intercept a Tomahawk
missile and send it back from whence it came.

The games we humans play.....

Andre Labuschagne

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The latest Malware that can steal your passwords from the browser uses a
code signed app that gets installed. So code signing is basically a facade.

Ray Rippey
VMT Software

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> The latest Malware that can steal your passwords from the browser uses a
> code signed app that gets installed. So code signing is basically a facade.

Did not know that but it all makes sense. The mimic strategy has been
with us animals for billions of years.

Andre Labuschagne

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Hi Charles,

there is a new "IE Mode" in Edge. According to M$, it uses the IE 11 engine
for "legacy sites". Whatever this means.

All this is a nightmare, IMHO :-( You need IE to request a code-signing
certificate, but Windows 11 does not support IE. This is crazy.

Friedrich

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> there is a new "IE Mode" in Edge. According to M$, it uses the IE 11 engine
> for "legacy sites". Whatever this means.

I tried that at first, but it does not work.

Adding the site page to the IE exception list allows you to start the
process, but then it fails (just hangs).

That is why I decided to use IE11 in a Windows 10 VM.

> All this is a nightmare, IMHO :-( You need IE to request a code-signing
> certificate, but Windows 11 does not support IE. This is crazy.

"Catch 22"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-eXI4uy3Mlg

:-)

Charles

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Hi Friedrich,

On 1/3/2022 12:00 PM, Friedrich Linder wrote:
> there is a new "IE Mode" in Edge. According to M$, it uses the IE 11 engine
> for "legacy sites". Whatever this means.
>
> All this is a nightmare, IMHO :-( You need IE to request a code-signing
> certificate, but Windows 11 does not support IE. This is crazy.

Is this only the comodo (don't remember the "new" name) or does this
apply to ALL code signing certificates? Stumbled on some old JavaScript
code couple of weeks ago that referenced IE 6. Guess we're at the same
point It IS crazy!

Best regards,

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Arnor Baldvinsson
Icetips Alta LLC

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>> there is a new "IE Mode" in Edge. According to M$, it uses the IE 11
>> engine
>> for "legacy sites". Whatever this means.
>
> I tried that at first, but it does not work.
>
> Adding the site page to the IE exception list allows you to start the
> process, but then it fails (just hangs).
>
> That is why I decided to use IE11 in a Windows 10 VM.

Ouch! Thanks for the confirmation, my friend.

Friedrich

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Hi Arnor,

as far as I know, this applies to all WebTrusts. It's some kind of Windows
limitation and it all started with the introduction of UAC.

Only IE fully supports the the request and collection of Authenticode
certificates. Edge never worked, Firefox might work, Google Crome fails in
most cases.

Friedrich

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Hi Friedrich,

On 1/5/2022 06:08 AM, Friedrich Linder wrote:
> as far as I know, this applies to all WebTrusts. It's some kind of Windows
> limitation and it all started with the introduction of UAC.

Ouch! But then that was 14 years ago, right? You'd THINK someone could
have come up with something in all that time! Vista came out on Jan 30,
2007. I remember it was before I moved from Texas as I bought a laptop
with Vista to test UAC installs!

Well, hopefully someone will get an idea on this and we won't have to go
back to running IE 6<g>

Can you get these things on like Ubuntu? I have an old HP laptop with
Ubuntu...<g>

Best regards,


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Arnor Baldvinsson
Icetips Alta LLC