Cause of Bad Downloads

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What are the likely cause of bad downloads?

I have a customer who is consistently getting bad downloads. This is a run
of the mill small client with nothing out of the ordinary AFAIK.

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> What are the likely cause of bad downloads?
>
> I have a customer who is consistently getting bad downloads. This is a run
> of the mill small client with nothing out of the ordinary AFAIK.

In no particular order:

1. Using a download manager.

2. Using FireFox instead of IE

3. Using AOL as an ISP

4. Being on a dialup connection

5. Hosting a download on a cheap server where there are inadequate
resources or there are too many accounts.

Those are a few...

:-)

Charles




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>> What are the likely cause of bad downloads?
>>
>> I have a customer who is consistently getting bad downloads. This is a run
>> of the mill small client with nothing out of the ordinary AFAIK.
>
> In no particular order:
>
> 1. Using a download manager.
>
> 2. Using FireFox instead of IE

Charles,

OK, I know you use IE all the time, and you know I use Firefox A LOT! :-D

Do you have any scientific data backing this up! :-D

I have used FireFox for years - FOR ALL kinds of downloads - downloads
available to the public, private downloads for commercial software that I
bought, and many diverse download locations...

AND except for those HUGE Windows 7 beta and RC downloads or other
Microsoft locations where you must use a special Download Manager (I have
found in general, if it's Microsoft - use IE)

I have successfully downloaded thousands of uncorrupted files by using the
FireFox browser.

And, I just brought up Windows 7 - RC candidate - 3GB plus 64 bit version
download, and the download manager successfully stated under FireFox
3.0.12.

David

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> OK, I know you use IE all the time, and you know I use Firefox A LOT! :-D

I recently spent some time writing Clarion code to workaround an IIS6 (or
IE, still not sure) bug that prevents IE from downloading a zip or exe from
an IIS server. Not a mime type issue, just some weird thing that even MSFT
cant seem to figure out.

Life sure is weird sometimes.
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>> OK, I know you use IE all the time, and you know I use Firefox A LOT! :-D
>
> I recently spent some time writing Clarion code to workaround an IIS6 (or
> IE, still not sure) bug that prevents IE from downloading a zip or exe from
> an IIS server. Not a mime type issue, just some weird thing that even MSFT
> cant seem to figure out.
>
> Life sure is weird sometimes.

Definitely - I am a firm believer in "USE what works First!", Then choose
it by your preference! AND, if what works and your preference are one and
the same - fine.

Too many get hung up over MS methods or browsers, etc.

As a Microsoft Partner, you don't fight the browser war - just use IE -
you'll be MUCH happier, more productive, and won't run into "browser
warnings".

BUT, if you prefer an alternative browser for other work, AND it gets the
job done, use what is most efficient for your way of working.

HOWEVER, ALWAYS - ALWAYS - test your posted web site work in ALL the major
browsers - FIRST and foremost - IE and FireFox, then others.

David

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> OK, I know you use IE all the time, and you know I use Firefox A LOT! :-D
> Do you have any scientific data backing this up! :-D

Actually there was a recent thread in a web design group that I follow
where a couple of people had been getting corrupt downloads for weeks.

At someone's suggestion, they used IE instead of FF and it downloaded
perfectly the first time.

FF is a mostly robust tool, but it has a serious flaw in that any Tom Dick
and Harry out there can write a plug in for it.

Many of these are quite nice.

Some are crap and cause problems with FireFox.

The safest bet is always a copy of IE that does NOT have Google, Yahoo or
any of the other toolbars installed (for the same reasons that some
plug-ins cause problems in FF.

I never install ANY of that crap into my IE.

Why do you think I NEVER have problems with it<g>?

:-)

Charles




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>> OK, I know you use IE all the time, and you know I use Firefox A LOT! :-D
>> Do you have any scientific data backing this up! :-D
>
> Actually there was a recent thread in a web design group that I follow
> where a couple of people had been getting corrupt downloads for weeks.
>
> At someone's suggestion, they used IE instead of FF and it downloaded
> perfectly the first time.

Charles,

Well, of course, there are exceptions (and as I pointed out - basically, if
you use Microsoft sites - special MS download managers, etc - it ONLY makes
sense to use IE) but...

what you are quoting are a few exceptional situations - not a consistent
behavior of a browser to be considered a "problem browser for downloads".

AND, Not the 20 Plus percent of the browser market that use FireFox very
consistently to download, browse, etc.

SO, IMHO - it doesn't belong on a "likely cause of bad downloads" list -
but then again, that's just my opinion from years of use and thousands of
useable downloads...

JAT,

David


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> SO, IMHO - it doesn't belong on a "likely cause of bad downloads" list -
> but then again, that's just my opinion from years of use and thousands of
> useable downloads...

The post was not a slam on Firefox, but rather a simple sanity check.

People install all sorts of crap that messes them up and YES, the ease of
who knows how may hundreds or thousands of plugins for FireFox make it a
prime candidate for getting it messed up.

So if that is their primary browser and they are having problems, they NEED
to get back to basics to see what the problem is.

This means a clean version of IE.

If that does not work then it is usually a problem on the other end.

Charles


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> What are the likely cause of bad downloads?
>
> I have a customer who is consistently getting bad downloads. This is a run
> of the mill small client with nothing out of the ordinary AFAIK.

What kind of server?
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>This means a clean version of IE.

Means just as well a clean version of FF. BTW, IE, even "clean", does
not work quite as well or as fast as FF, on my machine and a few
others...

Bernard